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Johnny Tijuana
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 6:23 pm |
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kalzone wrote: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
The Good Doctor, bro, The Good Doctor...and maybe Father of Death, those two songs just end up running together. Basically all of Act II kicks Act I's ass until it gets to The State vs. Thomas Light.
Otherwise, yeah, that list is close enough to mine.
[directed at JT, not Stink]
I feel like most of Act II is pairs of songs. The Good Doctor and Father of Death are two parts of one song, to me. The same goes with The State vs Thomas Light and Give us the Rope, as well as Keep Quiet and Breaking Out. The only songs that really stand on their own are The Hounds, Light up the Night, and Here Comes the Arm. Obviously, considering my taste in music (usually I prefer fast and energetic as opposed to slow and melodic) I'm not a huge fan of Here Comes the Arm, so when I just want one song, I tend to go to The Hounds or Light up the Night. I love the album as a whole, but really, most of it I ONLY enjoy when listening to it as a whole.
Act II is good. It has my two favorite songs. But I enjoy Act I more. When I say "act I > the rest of act II" it's obviously got some mix-and-matching in the middle, like The Good Doctor is better than Vengeance and Funeral, but I just meant as a whole, in order to keep it shorter.
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TwistedSpaceman
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 6:24 pm |
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DESIRE RUNS INDEPENDENTLY.
A little late, but I been busy chattin up Helios and his pokepals.
_________________ "To push back the wind... Is such a thing even possible?
To change the way it blows, to force it back. To not accept what it brings.
I, too want to push it back.... But I am afraid to try."
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StinkDude1
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 6:33 pm |
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I always thought Keep Quiet stands alone well. Breaking Out has those drum beats leading into Keep Quiet at the end that make it weird to listen to by itself (much like Crashman on Get Equipped), but Keep Quiet is just an awesome song with or without Breaking Out..
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TwistedSpaceman
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 6:48 pm |
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StinkDude1 wrote: I always thought Keep Quiet stands alone well. Breaking Out has those drum beats leading into Keep Quiet at the end that make it weird to listen to by itself (much like Crashman on Get Equipped), but Keep Quiet is just an awesome song with or without Breaking Out..
It stands on its own, but I think Breaking Out really compliments it.
Quite honestly, save Give Us the Rope, Here Comes the Arm, and the no - lyric songs, I could listen to any of them on their own. Of course, some are better than others.
TwistedSpaceman's Protomen list of Awesome:
1. Light Up the NIght
2. Hounds (So damn catchy)
3. Unrest (Am I the only person that absolutely loves this song?)
4. Will of One and The Stand and Vengeance
5. Keep Quiet and Breaking Out tie.
6. Desire runs Independently
7. The Good Doctor
8. Father of Death and Due Vendetta and State Vs.
9. Getting lazy
Rank for songs that win cause they feature beards: Beard's Going Nowhere
By the way, has anyone else noticed the stupendous 1984 inspirations?
_________________ "To push back the wind... Is such a thing even possible?
To change the way it blows, to force it back. To not accept what it brings.
I, too want to push it back.... But I am afraid to try."
-Piro, Megatokyo
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TwistedSpaceman
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 6:55 pm |
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On a side note, am I the only one that loves State Vs. Thomas Light?
_________________ "To push back the wind... Is such a thing even possible?
To change the way it blows, to force it back. To not accept what it brings.
I, too want to push it back.... But I am afraid to try."
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kalzone
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:14 pm |
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TwistedSpaceman wrote: By the way, has anyone else noticed the stupendous 1984 inspirations?
What gave it away, "We are the dead?"
In all seriousness, though, that's the only major 1984 reference in Act I that I'm aware of, and you're right...Act II is chock-full of them. There's images throughout of Wily shouting from telescreens (and iirc, that's actually what the liners call them), and everyone becomes so dependent on Wily and his robots that no one even considers revolting.
Hmm...what if Act III is Light/Mega Man learning to love Big Brother (Wily)? That'd be depressing (but then again, so were the other two acts). If they're really trying to allude to 1984, that'd be an interesting twist.
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TwistedSpaceman
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:18 pm |
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I just finished the book today, so I didnt recognize those references. THen today, I flipped on Album 1 and 2, and was all OH MY GOD THEY ARE THE DEAD. Also, The Stand for someone reminds me of 1984. Light, in some manner, really reminds me of Obrien, Will of One and Unrest especially. And Joe is sooooo Winston. Except instead of being brain washed, he explodes himself.
On a side note, Orwell is a genius. The 'Under the chestnut tree, i betrayed you and you betrayed me' thing was really sad/clever.
_________________ "To push back the wind... Is such a thing even possible?
To change the way it blows, to force it back. To not accept what it brings.
I, too want to push it back.... But I am afraid to try."
-Piro, Megatokyo
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StinkDude1
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:20 pm |
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TwistedSpaceman wrote: On a side note, am I the only one that loves State Vs. Thomas Light? Me wrote: While I didn't rank it high on my list, I quite like The State VS Thomas Light.
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TwistedSpaceman
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:21 pm |
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Yay, not alone.
Unlike HOPE.
_________________ "To push back the wind... Is such a thing even possible?
To change the way it blows, to force it back. To not accept what it brings.
I, too want to push it back.... But I am afraid to try."
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:26 pm |
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Well, Hope only rides alone. When Hope hangs out at the bar his bros Fear and Doubt keep him company.
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kalzone
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:27 pm |
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TwistedSpaceman wrote: I just finished the book today, so I didnt recognize those references. THen today, I flipped on Album 1 and 2, and was all OH MY GOD THEY ARE THE DEAD. Also, The Stand for someone reminds me of 1984. Light, in some manner, really reminds me of Obrien, Will of One and Unrest especially. And Joe is sooooo Winston. Except instead of being brain washed, he explodes himself.
On a side note, Orwell is a genius. The 'Under the chestnut tree, i betrayed you and you betrayed me' thing was really sad/clever.
Joe would be pretty similar to Winston, I guess, except that he died still hating the Big Brother figure. I'd say Protoman actually comes closer to Winston, as he tries to bring Wily down, and then, beaten and battered, joins him, only to die still proclaiming the fall of man. That ends up coming slightly closer to Winston's fate.
Light's the real variable, here...what makes me think he's going to have a Winston-like heel-face turn and join Wily is that, by the end of Act I, he has every reason to be absolutely miserable.
He lost Emily (Julia?), he lost his family (he watched one 'son' kill the other, and in 1984, Winston was separated from his family long ago), he lost Joe (kind of equivalent to realizing O'Brien isn't on his side, I guess). It's unlikely he's going to build another robot, and who knows where Mega Man ran off to. My guess? Light gives up and accepts Wily, and Mega Man eventually returns to bring Wily down and snap Light out of it (so a far more uplifting ending than 1984, but one that's kind of foreshadowed, given how close Light came on many occasions to ending it).
Either that, or it just ends depressingly, and Light ends up dead with no real resolution.
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TwistedSpaceman
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 4:13 am |
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Now that I think about it, it's pretty hard to pin only one character from the book to one character in the Protomen. Honestly, it's like they through all the characters into a big pot, mixed em around, then just pulled stuff out.
_________________ "To push back the wind... Is such a thing even possible?
To change the way it blows, to force it back. To not accept what it brings.
I, too want to push it back.... But I am afraid to try."
-Piro, Megatokyo
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Yamato man
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:51 am |
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i like the protomen. i like the state versus thomas light. it sounds good
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Megatheist
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 5:05 pm |
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ChaoticFox wrote: Almost makes me want to download and watch the actual movie. Someday.
The Movie is really good. Just make sure you see the Int'l version. They cut the American Version which actually ruins a lot of the story with inconsistencies later on.
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