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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:05 pm 
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Maybe in the original GSC, when the Lance, the Champion's, highest level pokemon is 50, compared to Lorelei, the FIRST E4 member, from RBY whose lowest is like 52.


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Gengar and Electabuzz are the best, they're like the badasses that are slightly past their prime, so they're all fat and shit, but they don't give a fuck because they'll still wreck your shit.


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Gengar especially got a boost with no more of that ass backwards "Ghost type moves are Physical type moves".


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Aw man! They nerfed the Abra line. I can't teach my Kadabra any of the elemental punches anymore D:


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They're terrible moves on Alakazam, anyway.


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For a competitive team, maybe. But in-game, that kind of versatility with his speed/special is a game-winner. With a moveset like that + Psychic, he can handle most of the game all by himself.


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ChaoticFox wrote:
speed/special

The elemental punches are Physical in D/P.


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Just use a different Pokemon that learns the punches. I know Hitmonchan can have all 3, I'm pretty sure there are other ones too.


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Well, the whole point was mixing them with Alakazam's crazy-ass stats, plus having Psychic to cover the bases.

But Box is right, they changed the way those moves work anyway. I guess that's how they justify re-making the same basic game over and over again, by changing all the things you thought you knew about old pokemon and their moves. KEEPS YOU ON YOUR TOES.


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They changed it for the better. No more "ALL FIRE MOVES ARE SPECIAL ETC." bullshit.

Some Pokemon are actually usable now.


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Some got beefed, some got nerfed, the games are still unbalanced and always will be. lol

New gripe: My number one biggest complaint about the Pokemon games is the fact that so few of the Pokemon are worth using, especially end-game, and how the few that are are either hard to find or don't show up until mid -to-late-game. (Or worse, they show up mid-game at low levels, so you have to spend a couple hours playing catch-up)

I had this conversation with JT today. I hate wasting time training Pokemon I'm not gonna use for my final team, and yet I also hate walking through the first three gyms with only two or three Pokemon on my belt because I haven't run across anything decent.


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When the hell were Ghost moves ever Physical?

Also, Fox was saying the Abra family got nerfed in Gen 4 because of the Physical-Special Split. In 1-3 it could wreck shit up with the Elemental Punches because they were based on Special/Sp. Atk.

Alakazam's movepool is severely limited because of that, but it's still a force to be reckoned with in-game.

Hitmonchan was one of the pokemon who GREATLY benefited from the Split, because the Elemental Punches were worthless with him.

I don't mind so much waiting to catch the good Pokes till later in the game, but that's because I get super into these games and pre-plan everything so I can minimize wasted EXP and whatnot.

To be fair though, some Pokes you can catch early on are good, like Staraptor and Crobat.


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The most pre planning I do is deciding if I'm gonna use pokemon I like, or pokemon I've never raised or used before that look cool.


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I use ones that I like and ones that I think look cool. 8)

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'Look cool' you say?

I got you more than covered.


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