Yeah, I gotta agree on the "another machine" being Megaman's interpretation of what Light is doing, not what Light is ACTUALLY saying. He has those lines about being his son, after all, which is what Light actually says, but Mega just laughs it off, 'cause that isn't how Light is acting.

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I'm pretty sure the line is, "Father find the truth (from) Jim Fear".

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Hi, new poster, so sorry if I'm breaking board protocol by committing thread necromancy. I saw this thread while viewing a video of Fly On A Dog recorded at MAGfest X in 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_n6QEc8TJ8), and I noticed some lyrical differences between the original post in this thread (and the video from MAGfest 9) and what I heard in the MAGfest X video that had not been talked about before.

These are both live versions, and things can even change leading up to the recording of History Repeating: Red, but I thought the differences (if there actually are any, and it's not just us hearing different things) were interesting. With so many of these songs, one or two words can change the tone a ton. My take is that Mega Man is singing this song to himself, to Rush, and to Light. Differences in lyrics b/w what I heard and the OP are bolded. Let me know what y'all think, or if those changed lyrics would change the song for you at all.

I think the line about chooses not to hear is "He chooses not to hear me, just white noise." It doesn't sound like there is room for him to add the word like in it.

Now that we got a studio version it should be easier to go through and figure out the lyrics.

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As I'm listening to this I'm thinking that the part:
Father hides (from?) the truth, in fear
Maybe if he ignores it, it'll disappear.
Why did he give me voice?
He chooses not to hear me, just like (white?) noise.

Is actually:
Father hides the truth, in fear
Maybe if he ignores it, it'll disappear.
Why did he give me voice?
He'll still choose not to hear me, just white noise.

But that's just me

Alright, so these are the adjusted lyrics to the recorded version. I'm pretty sure some of the prepositions and stuff changed, so mostly I updated those. Great job rekenner, these were very spot on otherwise!

I think the stanza most in question is:

Father hides the truth, in fear
Maybe if he ignores it, we'll disappear.
Why did he give me voice?
And still choose not to hear me, just white noise.

Here's why I went with 'we'll disappear'. First off, there's no second 'it'. It has to either be: "Maybe if he ignores, it will disappear" or "Maybe if he ignores it, we'll disappear"

And this is how we can make sense of the second (the first just doesn't make much sense):

Maybe if Light ignores 'The Truth', Megaman and Rush, his child-turned-weapon, will disappear. Megaman is being hard on himself - Wily is a problem Dr. Light is basically sweeping under the rug. It's an ugly truth, this war they're all having. And then Light has the gall to send Megaman as an assassin. He's just a weapon.

Light is ignoring the ugly truth of death. Does wily deserve to die? By using Megaman, Light is isolating himself from this guilt. Megaman feels as though he is just being used as an emotionless tool. Light doesn't seem to care about his emotions. Light wants to see the problem in black and white. Light is right, Wily is evil.

Megaman, due to History Repeating: Blue (and Lamentations), can't feel this way any more. It is not black and white. While Light hides in his delusional, self-justifying ignorance, Megaman must deal with the harsh gray area. Because of this, Megaman feels like Dr. Light is just trying to sweep Megaman under the rug. By ignoring the harsh truth, maybe everything involved in the complex problem will just go away.

After all, from MM point of view, Light's doing a pretty good job of ignoring MM and his struggles. He doesn't even listen to MM anymore...

Summary of this stanza: Megaman feels as though Dr. Light is trying to ignore and dehumanize him. Doesn't Dr. Light just want the complex problem of an emotional weapon to just disappear?




This does not mean Dr. Light ACTUALLY feels this way. This is how MM thinks Dr. Light sees him: as a weapon, just another machine to answer for past machine's failings. Dr. Light's image as a kind, loving father is DISAPPEARING. "Your 'light' is going out on me."

Even worse, Megaman is losing his ideals. Humanity used to be the ultimate goal: Dr. Light and MM had no doubt that they were doing the right thing. Now, humanity is not what it seems. MM has latched onto the one phrase Dr. Light didn't want him to: "Son, for one who wants so much to be human, I fear you've only seen the worst of us." Now humanity is not what it seems...

Left alone, Mega turns to his new partner. A shoulder to cry on - the unconditional love of man's best friend. But he's still racked by doubt - Does my father just see me as a weapon?


Dr. Light would answer no, but that's not how MM sees it...

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Well this almost completely throws out the possibly of doing one of the later games (can't remember which one) where Wily tries to confront Mega Man that he never tried to reason with any of the robot masters and just destroyed them right out.

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You didn't hurt me
Nothing can hurt me
You didn't hurt me
Now nothing can stop me

Snake man does pose that challenge, I think. But clearly, Megaman does not resolve this issue. It could be an issue that Wily capitalizes on later, despite Snake man's use of it.

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He does, but with Mega's doubts, that shows he has serious concerns about his purpose.

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You didn't hurt me
Nothing can hurt me
You didn't hurt me
Now nothing can stop me

His actions don't mirror those concerns yet though, so technically Wily would just be hammering that same point home, giving it more impact than if it had just come out of nowhere.

Ah, seems Snake Man's speech did an even bigger number on Mega Man than we initially realized. He spat the seed of doubt, and Light unknowingly nurtured it. Looks like Proto Man will have to be the key to Mega Man's revelation.

My guess for the album? Mega Man will spare Dr. Wily again, just to prove to himself that, even when ordered by Light to make the kill, he can choose to deny it. The whole world might want Wily dead, but Mega Man will probably refuse to be the bullet to end him. He knows his purpose now is to only stop Wily. And he will make sure he is always there to do so, for another seven games.

Also, anyone else notice this?

Great find!

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You know what makes that even better?

It symbol on the shilloette's head is shaped sort of like a P. You may think it's Protoman, right?

Well, the uppercase symbol for Gamma is 'Γ'.

Freaking love these teasing double meanings.