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MajinCilos
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 Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:56 am |
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I've been listening to recordings of magfest 9, which are awesome.
In the MM3 song "One Last Time", you have a grammatical error.
I'm nitpicking, but one of your lyrics is:
"If it was up to me, I'd rewrite history!"
when it should be
"If it were up to me, I'd rewrite history!"
At least, I'm pretty sure you're all singing "was".
BTW, is this song a duet between Megaman and Protoman?
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Helios
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:38 pm |
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Actually, no, they aren't wrong. Neither are you.
The subjunctive (which 'were' indicates) is not the only way to express a wish in the past. Though it is valid, it has not been in style since the 14th century:
If + past subjuntive + conditional (would/could)
Rather, you can use a simple if clause:
If + normal past tense + conditional
For example: If I had a million dollars, I'd buy a car
For our dilema here: the 3rd person (subject: it) past tense of 'to be' would be valid. a.k.a., was.
Hence; "If it was up to me, I'd rewrite history."
It would also be valid to use the subjunctive. For 'to be', that is indeed were. You are right in suggesting the subjunctive as an alternative, however it is not necesary. A past tense if clause is perfectly valid in expressing a wish in modern English.
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Tuberz
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:43 pm |
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Told.
_________________ Comm.BA wrote: I loved the way that [musical term] sounded against the [musical term]. And the [musical term]! It was a fucking great [musical term].
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MajinCilos
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:48 pm |
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Was indicates something has been.
Were indicates a hypothetical. The sentence is hypothetical.
I'm sure was works in some way, but were is proper.
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Helios
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:14 pm |
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The if is the primary focus.
If something had happened (in the past) then things would be different. The 'if' is the main carrier of hypothetical, regardless of subjunctive.
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jigger
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:48 pm |
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MajinCilos wrote: Was indicates something has been.
Were indicates a hypothetical. The sentence is hypothetical.
I'm sure was works in some way, but were is proper.
Dude, your best bet is to just drop it, Helios will argue over the smallest, most retarded shit when it comes to Megas lyrics, just trying to save everyone some time here.
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MonkeyNamedEric
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:31 pm |
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I think it's "was".
Because "it" is the subject.
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Jim Fear
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:49 pm |
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TL;DR nonsensical bullshit
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MajinCilos
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:55 pm |
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jigger wrote: MajinCilos wrote: Was indicates something has been.
Were indicates a hypothetical. The sentence is hypothetical.
I'm sure was works in some way, but were is proper. Dude, your best bet is to just drop it, Helios will argue over the smallest, most retarded shit when it comes to Megas lyrics, just trying to save everyone some time here. His problem is he backed up my argument in his second post without even realizing it.
Oh and Jim Fear, 8 sentences is too long for you to read? lol
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Jim Fear
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:13 pm |
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MajinCilos wrote:
Oh and Jim Fear, 8 sentences is too long for you to read? lol
8 sentences of the Majin and Helios Bickering Late Night Show is a bit taxing, yeah. _________________
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Tuberz
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:15 pm |
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I'm semi glad that this isn't another "PLEES MEGUHS GIVE US MOOSICS AND STUFF" thread.
_________________ Comm.BA wrote: I loved the way that [musical term] sounded against the [musical term]. And the [musical term]! It was a fucking great [musical term].
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Helios
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:43 pm |
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Jim Fear wrote: MajinCilos wrote:
Oh and Jim Fear, 8 sentences is too long for you to read? lol
8 sentences of the Majin and Helios Bickering Late Night Show is a bit taxing, yeah. I wouldn't call that bickering, it was a nice, calm discussion about a grammar point.
My mentality is that nothing is too small to give a little attention to, and if there ends up being a conflict about it, it's best to resolve, even if it seems small and unimportant.
Last edited by Helios on Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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DerekTheMagicDragun
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:49 pm |
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Can we shun line this?
_________________ Comm.BA wrote: AND DRATINI HAS BEEN CAPTURED! I have named it "Derek". When it evolves and it only says "Derek", I'll know that it's short for "Derek the Magic Dragunite"
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MonkeyNamedEric
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:01 pm |
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Helios wrote: I wouldn't call that bickering, it was a nice, calm discussion about a grammar point.
My mentality is that nothing is to small to give a little attention to, and if there ends up being a conflict about it, it's best to resolve, even if it seems small and unimportant.
too*.
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Helios
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:08 pm |
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MonkeyNamedEric wrote: Helios wrote: I wouldn't call that bickering, it was a nice, calm discussion about a grammar point.
My mentality is that nothing is to small to give a little attention to, and if there ends up being a conflict about it, it's best to resolve, even if it seems small and unimportant. too*. Ahh, what a time for a typ-o =/
Lol, that was humerously placed, though. Fix'd in any case.
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